1 00:00:00,610 --> 00:00:01,950 Hello, I'm calling from the trip. 2 00:00:02,170 --> 00:00:07,910 I'd like to confirm a proposal. How much money was it? Was it over a thousand 3 00:00:07,910 --> 00:00:10,070 dollars? Was it over ten thousand dollars? 4 00:02:02,979 --> 00:02:03,979 Excuse me, sir. 5 00:02:07,540 --> 00:02:09,979 Hold it right there, please. 6 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Are you lost? 7 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,400 No. 8 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,920 I'm just out walking. 9 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Four in the morning. 10 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,360 May I see some identification? 11 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,780 I guess you guys haven't got anything better to do than to harass people going 12 00:02:23,780 --> 00:02:24,780 out for a walk. 13 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,820 What are you doing? Just a check, sir. 14 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,920 Well, I don't want to wait here all night. 15 00:02:35,340 --> 00:02:38,220 You interrupted my train of thought. I mean, I was working on something very 16 00:02:38,220 --> 00:02:40,200 important. You come along and start harassing me. 17 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,400 I mean, what happens if I can't remember what I was thinking? Are you ready to 18 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,320 take the responsibility for the consequences of that? 19 00:03:12,580 --> 00:03:15,120 So you had some kind of bad skin when you were a kid, huh? 20 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,000 And your folks took you to a doctor and he gave you x -ray treatments, which 21 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,000 cleared it right up, huh? 22 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Listen, I didn't even discuss my adolescence with my mother. 23 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,320 And then 20, 30 years later, you developed a tumor and had to have your 24 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,320 yanked, huh? 25 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:33,440 Yeah. Then you got a call asking if you'd be part of this research project. 26 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,660 Right. They told me they thought there was some connection. You had some 27 00:03:37,660 --> 00:03:38,418 trouble, too? 28 00:03:38,420 --> 00:03:39,640 No, I never even had bad skin. 29 00:03:40,060 --> 00:03:43,460 I'm just part of a random sample control group, you know? Three bucks an hour. 30 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,240 It's a living. 31 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Morning. Mr. Grant? 32 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,600 Yeah. I'm Dan Thompson. Hi. 33 00:03:58,540 --> 00:03:59,800 Hi, Mike. How's it going, doctor? 34 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,839 Fine, fine. 35 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Who's first? 36 00:04:02,180 --> 00:04:03,980 I'll be my guest. I'm paid by the hour. 37 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Thanks. 38 00:04:18,750 --> 00:04:19,750 Good. Real good. 39 00:04:19,970 --> 00:04:20,970 Any chronic pains? 40 00:04:21,649 --> 00:04:24,850 Oh, well, sometimes the shoulder gives me a little pain. 41 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:27,490 What's done a lot of doors in your line of work? 42 00:04:28,010 --> 00:04:31,050 Oh, I think it's from cradling the phone. I'm on the phone a lot. 43 00:04:33,170 --> 00:04:34,170 Oh, yeah. 44 00:04:34,270 --> 00:04:35,830 Uh -huh. Think you can take care of that? 45 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:38,410 Sure. Hold the phone in your hand from now on. 46 00:04:39,730 --> 00:04:40,730 Oh. 47 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:43,890 Gentlemen. Gentlemen, I'm sorry. I just had to interrupt. 48 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:45,890 Morning, Dr. Duncan. What's wrong? Great news. 49 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:48,790 Just got off the phone from the committee. We are this year's Strauss 50 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:50,050 winner. Congratulations. 51 00:04:50,470 --> 00:04:52,110 Well, congratulations to you. 52 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:55,890 I have a hunch the research you're doing in arthritis was a big factor. 53 00:04:57,330 --> 00:04:58,950 This kind of thing happens here every day. 54 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:00,490 Congratulations. 55 00:05:00,690 --> 00:05:02,270 Well, I won't interrupt any longer, Daniel. 56 00:05:02,730 --> 00:05:05,170 I want you to know you're in the hands of our brightest star. 57 00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:06,570 I should call my paper. 58 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:08,730 You work on a newspaper? 59 00:05:09,290 --> 00:05:10,290 I'm tripped. 60 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:12,350 Oh. 61 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,580 I'm not sure you're aware of what a terrific facility we have here. You bet 62 00:05:16,580 --> 00:05:19,800 aware of it. You guys probably saved my life when I had thyroid cancer. 63 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,240 And we were happy to do it. Anytime. 64 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:23,740 Once is enough. 65 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,280 But I don't think your readers know the fascinating work that we do here every 66 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,820 day on the research side. And I think it deserves a story, Lou. 67 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,900 Am I giving you too hard a sell? 68 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,240 No. 69 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,580 Then I'm not doing it right. 70 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,260 Lou, there's real drama here. 71 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,680 We're solving mysteries that are tougher than anything Agatha Christie ever 72 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,440 thought of. We have a science editor in L .A .U. as part of his beast. Yeah, 73 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:47,520 your guy knows a lot about aeronautics, but when it comes to medicine, I'm not 74 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,920 so sure. I never see him out here. 75 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,520 And when it comes to his story on the Strauss Award, I bet it'll be a 76 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,520 of the press release. 77 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:57,100 What happened to shy, retiring scientists who like to stay in their 78 00:05:57,340 --> 00:05:59,420 You send a reporter around and I'll introduce you to them. 79 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,460 Think it over, huh? All right. 80 00:06:02,140 --> 00:06:03,200 Thanks. All right. 81 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:04,580 We'll see you. 82 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:08,620 Oh, no, the tickets were top -notch. 83 00:06:09,260 --> 00:06:12,620 45 -yard line, and nobody spilled beer on me the whole afternoon. 84 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:15,140 And now you want a couple for the next home game, huh? 85 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,020 No, no, Damon. 86 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:19,020 I want four. 87 00:06:21,740 --> 00:06:22,740 Oh, hey, Charlie. 88 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,980 Did you hear about us winning the Strauss Award? 89 00:06:25,460 --> 00:06:26,460 Yes, terrific. 90 00:06:26,780 --> 00:06:31,600 Congratulations. Oh, listen, I wouldn't know this Strauss Award from a prize in 91 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,880 a box of Cracker Jacks. 92 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,100 But they tell me it's just about the most prestigious thing that a research 93 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:39,280 institute can get, and I just hope you're going to give it all the 94 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:40,280 deserves. 95 00:06:40,460 --> 00:06:41,600 That's not up to me. 96 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,740 Who runs that paper down there, anyhow? 97 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,200 A lot of people. 98 00:06:46,420 --> 00:06:49,420 And don't bait me, Damon. I'm a very secure guy. 99 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Not only that, I'm as interested in L .A .U. getting good coverage as you or any 100 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,220 other member of the Alumni Association. 101 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,260 But what makes me a superb executive is I don't interfere with the day -to -day 102 00:07:01,260 --> 00:07:02,380 decisions of my editors. 103 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,920 Donovan, I want to talk to you about our coverage of LAU. 104 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,780 When was the last time we had someone over there? 105 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,860 Today. Good. Who? 106 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Grant. He volunteered to be a guinea pig for the med center. 107 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,980 Hey, listen, fellas. 108 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:23,560 Don't let my desire for good football seats influence you or anything like 109 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,960 But have we been giving enough space to LAU? 110 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,360 I got a pitch from them today, too. Well, maybe we should oblige them. I 111 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:34,060 what they're doing out of the medical school is very important. 112 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:36,740 Besides, I'm not asking for that much reporter time. 113 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,460 I'd be happy to, because what I saw out there was pretty exciting. 114 00:07:40,420 --> 00:07:41,780 Let's put Rossi on it. 115 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,640 We'll have him get a provocative angle. 116 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:50,860 Really go after the thrilling, pulse -pounding stories that are really going 117 00:07:50,860 --> 00:07:53,060 behind the old Bunsen burners. 118 00:07:55,820 --> 00:07:57,980 Do you really think there's anything interesting there? Sure there is. 119 00:07:58,500 --> 00:07:59,500 That's great. 120 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,340 I could end up on a 50 -yard line this Saturday. 121 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,620 I know we're running late. 122 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,040 How late? 123 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Well, this is week 20. 124 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,440 And Wendell's where your first rabbit was in week 8. 125 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,080 We haven't even slowed it. 126 00:08:17,860 --> 00:08:18,860 That's right. 127 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:21,480 If anything, the arthritis is worse. 128 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Look at the posterior knee joints. 129 00:08:30,820 --> 00:08:33,140 You want to increase the dosage? I want to think about it. 130 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:35,820 It can't be. 131 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:41,159 Right in here. 132 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,080 Who are you? I hope you're not squeamish. 133 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,480 It's usually something dismembered out on a table. 134 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:47,459 I'll be fine. 135 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:48,460 Good. 136 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:50,260 Daniel? 137 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:54,130 Daniel, I'd like you to meet Joe Rossi from the Tribune. 138 00:08:54,590 --> 00:08:56,410 Hi. Glad to meet you, Mr. Rossi. 139 00:08:56,790 --> 00:08:58,790 This is Steve Nakajima, one of my lab assistants. 140 00:08:59,050 --> 00:09:02,170 Hi. I've been telling Joe about the arthritis research, and he asked to take 141 00:09:02,170 --> 00:09:02,829 look around. 142 00:09:02,830 --> 00:09:03,830 Sure, Steve. 143 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:09,170 Well, we're in the final stages of duplicating an experiment I did back in 144 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:12,590 Montana. It's a treatment for arthritis. This treatment could relieve the 145 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:14,010 suffering of millions of people, Joe. 146 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:17,330 We're giving it our every priority, aren't we, Dan? We sure are. 147 00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:20,130 Dan, I told the film crew we'd be ready for them next week. 148 00:09:21,300 --> 00:09:22,620 I hate to think that was premature. 149 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:24,460 Making a movie? 150 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:25,540 Yeah, the film school. 151 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,500 They got wind of the project. They got very excited about doing a documentary. 152 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,660 Could be very important exposure for the center. 153 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,680 You will be ready next week, right? 154 00:09:33,220 --> 00:09:34,220 Oh, yes. 155 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Mind if I take a look around? 156 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Yeah, I sure do. 157 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,740 You mean, yes, I can. 158 00:09:39,020 --> 00:09:40,200 I mean, yes, I'd mind. 159 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,340 That's one of the worst things I can say to a reporter, right? 160 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:45,580 It's close. 161 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,900 Well, Dan, we finally got the press to take an interest in us. I'd hate to 162 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:50,900 there was nothing to show them. 163 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,080 Sorry, George. 164 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:55,140 But I promise Mr. Rossi, as soon as I have anything, he'll be the first to 165 00:09:55,780 --> 00:09:56,780 Uh -oh. 166 00:09:57,460 --> 00:10:00,520 You'll also have to excuse me. Can you see your way out? Oh, yeah, sure. 167 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,420 Doctor, I know this is not the right time, but I want to do some background 168 00:10:08,420 --> 00:10:10,200 you. Oh, for the newspaper? 169 00:10:10,580 --> 00:10:12,160 Yeah. Could we do it tomorrow? 170 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:15,000 Oh, sure. I don't want to disrupt anything. 171 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,560 I'll call you. Good. Thanks. 172 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,500 Looking for results by next week? 173 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,640 Yeah. 174 00:10:32,820 --> 00:10:36,320 Maybe you ought to consider taking Wendell to Lourdes. Damn it, just shut 175 00:10:36,780 --> 00:10:38,380 And stay out of this project. 176 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,020 You keep his cage clean and keep him fed, and that's it. 177 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,140 What's the matter, man? I was just kidding. 178 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,360 Are we clear on that, Steve? 179 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:50,500 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 180 00:10:55,850 --> 00:10:56,850 Isn't that better, Dennis? 181 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:58,470 Getting some shots out of doors? 182 00:10:58,930 --> 00:11:02,190 Rather than photographing me in my office on the phone, begging for money? 183 00:11:02,350 --> 00:11:04,770 You're good at it, Doctor. I was ready to write a check myself. 184 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:07,150 I'll remind you about that later. 185 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:11,830 Dr. Duncan, how does a school like L .A .U., which barely had a biology lab 15 186 00:11:11,830 --> 00:11:13,970 years ago, get so prestigious so fast? 187 00:11:14,390 --> 00:11:17,790 Well, if you promise not to try and set up a medical center of your own, I'll 188 00:11:17,790 --> 00:11:18,609 tell you. 189 00:11:18,610 --> 00:11:20,730 It takes success on two fronts, actually. 190 00:11:21,250 --> 00:11:23,630 The people in the lab have to come through for you, consistently. 191 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:28,020 And I've got to keep an eye on where the money is, what projects are selling. 192 00:11:28,260 --> 00:11:29,260 I'm not sure I understand. 193 00:11:29,860 --> 00:11:31,320 Well, you research what there's money for. 194 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,300 For instance, I know this is going to sound crass, but cancer is very hot 195 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:37,360 now. Several years ago, that wasn't the case. 196 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,640 And just look at solar energy. For years, there wasn't money enough. 197 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:43,400 Who decides where the money's going? 198 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:46,400 Foundations, government agencies, those kinds of people. 199 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:50,200 A president can get charged up about a certain area of research, and suddenly, 200 00:11:50,340 --> 00:11:51,339 there's money. 201 00:11:51,340 --> 00:11:54,240 Like when Kennedy said there'd be an American on the moon by the end of the 202 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:55,339 That's right. 203 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:59,040 L .A. used funding. A lot of it comes from the Steward Foundation. Isn't that 204 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,979 right? 205 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:03,420 I think you'd be surprised to learn about the number of generous gifts we 206 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:04,419 receive from individuals. 207 00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:06,380 And, of course, the government is always a big contributor. 208 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:10,380 But the complex is called the Emerson Steward Medical Center. You didn't 209 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:12,000 that just because it had a nice ring to it. 210 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:15,660 Actually, I suggested it be called the George Duncan Medical Center. 211 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:18,000 But I ran into a bit of persistence. 212 00:12:23,310 --> 00:12:24,310 That isn't so bad. 213 00:12:30,490 --> 00:12:31,490 You know what's bad? 214 00:12:32,270 --> 00:12:34,010 Drinking 12 flavors of barium is bad. 215 00:12:35,330 --> 00:12:37,450 You've had to drink barium 12 times in your life? 216 00:12:37,690 --> 00:12:39,810 12 times in a week. I can still taste it. 217 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:44,530 I can still taste it. You make a living drinking barium and testing allergies on 218 00:12:44,530 --> 00:12:48,710 your arm? Yep, giving blood, brain scans, whatever the doctors want. 219 00:12:50,690 --> 00:12:51,830 I think there's some... 220 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:53,250 Something happened here on B andD. 221 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:57,110 Okay. I told him that whole animal hair section was going to go like that. 222 00:12:57,450 --> 00:12:58,550 You don't do anything else? 223 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:59,870 No. 224 00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:03,790 Some weeks I can pull in 40 bucks. Of course, around summer session, things 225 00:13:03,790 --> 00:13:04,790 really slow down. 226 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:06,189 It's terrible. 227 00:13:06,190 --> 00:13:08,070 How can you live in L .A. on 40 hours a week? 228 00:13:08,630 --> 00:13:10,250 Well, I don't spend four bucks on a movie. 229 00:13:11,270 --> 00:13:12,990 And I don't spend 100 bucks on a suit. 230 00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:15,790 But I get by. 231 00:13:15,890 --> 00:13:18,370 It's a lot better than working my tail off the way these guys around here do. 232 00:13:18,610 --> 00:13:19,610 How old are you, son? 233 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:20,910 26. 234 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,880 And this is your life now? 235 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,740 Getting stabbed and strained and punctured? 236 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:27,220 How can you do that? 237 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:28,500 Yeah, it frees me. 238 00:13:29,140 --> 00:13:31,720 I've liberated myself from the feeling that I have to hop out of bed every 239 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,720 morning and go to work. 240 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:34,820 I'm not tied to a job. 241 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:37,140 I'm my own man. What's left of you? 242 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:38,640 Besides, I'm doing a good thing. 243 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,960 I'm leaving my body to science while I'm still alive. 244 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,120 George? 245 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:46,780 Daniel, hi. 246 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,400 George, what is this? 247 00:13:48,780 --> 00:13:50,540 Well, whatever it is, can it wait till later? 248 00:13:50,970 --> 00:13:53,590 I've got this luncheon thing. I haven't been able to see you in two days. I've 249 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:55,970 been tied up with these Strauss Award people. You've got to tell me what's 250 00:13:55,970 --> 00:13:57,990 on. Nobody tells me and then this comes in the mail. 251 00:13:58,350 --> 00:14:00,930 What's that? It's graduate student assignments for the next quarter. 252 00:14:01,430 --> 00:14:02,650 They didn't give me any lab assistants. 253 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:05,950 I've got eight projects and proposals and three more and no lab assistants. 254 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:09,350 All right, Daniel, I'll look into it, but don't expect any good news. Well, 255 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:11,690 you at least give me Steve Nakajima for a few more weeks? 256 00:14:12,190 --> 00:14:14,190 I mean, we're that close. That close. 257 00:14:15,830 --> 00:14:17,990 Daniel, let me tell you what I see. 258 00:14:18,410 --> 00:14:19,410 You're exhausted. 259 00:14:19,690 --> 00:14:20,770 And it may be my fault. 260 00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:23,570 I think you could use a little time away from the lab. 261 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:26,510 Give yourself a chance to charge up your batteries. 262 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:28,710 How would you like to go back into the classroom? 263 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:31,310 You're kidding. 264 00:14:31,330 --> 00:14:32,330 Now, what do you think? 265 00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:33,610 Take a senior seminar? 266 00:14:33,810 --> 00:14:35,550 A couple of sections of that introductory course? 267 00:14:35,770 --> 00:14:37,350 It could be just what you need, don't you think? 268 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:40,970 One minute you're putting such pressure on me to finish the arthritis project, I 269 00:14:40,970 --> 00:14:43,350 can't get out of the lab, and the next minute you're going to throw me into a 270 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:44,370 classroom with undergrads? 271 00:14:45,630 --> 00:14:46,630 What's going on? 272 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,640 Teaching is very important, Daniel. You're beginning to lose sight of that. 273 00:14:49,940 --> 00:14:51,180 It's part of what we do here. 274 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,460 Now, I want you to give this plan some thought. 275 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,420 We'll work out the details later. 276 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:57,460 There's no rush. 277 00:14:58,460 --> 00:14:59,460 Okay, Daniel? 278 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,820 Government, young lady. I'm still unclear about the Stewart Foundation's 279 00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:16,580 relationship to LAU. If you could just give me a copy of your annual report. 280 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,560 I am not going to roll over in a dead faint because some reporter comes 281 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,080 about. Would you tell me where you distribute your money? I have explained 282 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,240 to you. Your questions are hostile. 283 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,640 I'm not hostile. 284 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,680 And you are suspicious. 285 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,200 I'm not suspicious. 286 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,340 You are a troublemaker and I don't propose to waste any more time on you. 287 00:15:34,340 --> 00:15:36,660 would be so much better for you if you would just... Good afternoon. 288 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Good afternoon. 289 00:15:42,980 --> 00:15:43,980 Good afternoon. 290 00:15:45,140 --> 00:15:49,620 So, I had to tell Lou I'd left the notes in my shirt pocket. And the shirt went 291 00:15:49,620 --> 00:15:50,700 through the washing machine. 292 00:15:51,140 --> 00:15:53,740 And the guy's phone number was a giant wad of pulp. 293 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Ah. Yeah. 294 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,720 The entire story was down the drain. 295 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,240 Felt like when you're a kid and you have to tell the teacher the dog ate your 296 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,019 math homework. 297 00:16:02,020 --> 00:16:03,260 And you lived to tell the tale. 298 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,179 Oh, sure. 299 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:05,460 Why, what was Lou gonna do, candy? 300 00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:06,880 You lost a big story. 301 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:09,270 Hey, everybody loses a few, even the best of us. 302 00:16:10,050 --> 00:16:11,470 You're in a funny business, Joe. 303 00:16:12,670 --> 00:16:17,530 You know, actually, I think we met before once. Well, I don't know if met 304 00:16:17,530 --> 00:16:18,730 right word. When was that? 305 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:21,510 When you were stopped by the cops that night. 306 00:16:21,830 --> 00:16:23,050 I was riding with them. 307 00:16:23,250 --> 00:16:26,750 Well, you were. Maybe I overreacted a little. 308 00:16:27,150 --> 00:16:28,150 Well, I don't know. 309 00:16:28,250 --> 00:16:31,410 Back in Montana, that's how I used to get my best thinking done. And you 310 00:16:31,410 --> 00:16:32,970 have to worry about being stopped by cops. 311 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:35,250 Mountain lions, maybe. 312 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,140 Did somebody just cure cancer? Don't think so. Nobody here is working on 313 00:16:52,420 --> 00:16:53,420 Hey, Steve! 314 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Joe! 315 00:16:55,420 --> 00:16:56,420 Dan! 316 00:16:56,700 --> 00:17:00,580 What's going on? The Alsace Institute gave up on the immunology project. 317 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:02,140 Unconditional surrender. 318 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,819 You're kidding. Does Hawkins know? He's in there somewhere with a rose in his 319 00:17:05,819 --> 00:17:07,680 teeth. Hi, Mr. Rossi. Hi. 320 00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:10,020 The cups are by the sink. Help yourselves. 321 00:17:10,859 --> 00:17:13,579 The Alsace Science Institute has been doing immunology work. 322 00:17:13,859 --> 00:17:14,880 So has the L .A .U. 323 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:18,680 They look for an answer one way, we went another. 324 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Winner takes all. 325 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,200 Crazy competition's been going on for about a year and a half now. 326 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,660 And L .A .U. was right. 327 00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:27,079 We don't know that yet. 328 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,620 All we know is that Alsace was wrong. 329 00:17:30,220 --> 00:17:31,780 Which is reason enough for a blowout. 330 00:17:32,140 --> 00:17:33,560 Very sportsmanlike. Mm -hmm. 331 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:43,410 Ladies and gentlemen, let me momentarily interrupt our celebration here to 332 00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:48,970 remind you that science as a whole did profit by the experiment at the Alsace 333 00:17:48,970 --> 00:17:54,590 Institute. We now know that one more approach to our mutual goal is 334 00:17:54,730 --> 00:18:00,010 So, in that sense, our colleagues who made a most exhausting and costly 335 00:18:00,010 --> 00:18:01,410 have not failed. 336 00:18:01,930 --> 00:18:04,050 But thank God it didn't happen to us. 337 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:07,920 Well, we do all in my bank. 338 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,660 Bank Strasbourg. 339 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,380 A lot of these guys. 340 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:14,720 I've never seen them this happy. 341 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,140 Sometimes wonder if it isn't fumes in the lab or something making us all so 342 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:20,140 mean. 343 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:21,980 We're in a tough field, I'm surprised. 344 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,620 Yeah. Mr. Wizard was always so nice. 345 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:28,400 It's going to be some party when I fall on my face. 346 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,100 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 347 00:18:37,180 --> 00:18:38,180 Hello? 348 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,940 Mother, Noah, and scientists agree for quick energy, nothing beats candy. 349 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,060 Results of an independent survey. 350 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:48,340 By LIU. 351 00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:49,860 What is this? 352 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,040 They ran a test on five different candy bars and discovered that since sugar 353 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,940 enters the system as a carbohydrate, it gets absorbed right away and gives you a 354 00:18:57,940 --> 00:18:58,940 boost of energy. 355 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,380 That's not exactly news. 356 00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:02,720 It's not exactly the whole story. 357 00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:06,510 I don't see anything here about what happens after the burst of energy. 358 00:19:06,790 --> 00:19:10,570 Oh, no, no, no. This was a very limited study, and with good reason. 359 00:19:11,090 --> 00:19:14,570 You remember the big to -do last year when they were going to take all the 360 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:15,870 machines out of the public school? 361 00:19:16,130 --> 00:19:20,950 Well... Well, the people who make Stupendous Candy figured it was time to 362 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:21,949 little lobbying. 363 00:19:21,950 --> 00:19:24,690 So they went to L .A .U. They were already at L .A .U. 364 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:28,570 E .M. Stewart Confectioners was started by Emerson Stewart of the Stewart 365 00:19:28,570 --> 00:19:30,750 Foundation, which has contributed... 366 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,560 $2 .8 million to LAU's medical center in the past five years. 367 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,840 You don't say. 368 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,120 I do say. Dr. Duncan, LAU's foremost authority on the subject, made a very 369 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,420 persuasive statement in favor of Candy before the school board. 370 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,820 Is any of this illegal? 371 00:19:47,660 --> 00:19:49,960 No, but it's not very noble either. 372 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,200 So much for the hallowed halls. 373 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,780 What do you think, Lou? 374 00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:56,820 Really disappointed. 375 00:19:57,820 --> 00:19:59,980 I had such a good feeling about that place. 376 00:20:00,590 --> 00:20:01,590 They took care of me. 377 00:20:02,370 --> 00:20:04,970 Now I find out they're selling their good name for endowments. 378 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:06,510 Come on, Lou. 379 00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:09,050 You're a guy that takes everything with a grain of salt. 380 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:12,310 Why should the universities be any different than the rest of the world? 381 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:13,710 Why? 382 00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:17,730 Because. Because they've got all those arches with Siki the Truth chiseled on 383 00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:20,810 them. Because if we can't look for a straight answer from people whose job it 384 00:20:20,810 --> 00:20:23,370 to be detached and discover and teach, then where do we go? 385 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:25,270 I think I sold my story. 386 00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:27,550 Do it up there tight. 387 00:20:29,470 --> 00:20:32,370 I guess we'd better tie it in with the Strauss Award ceremony. 388 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:34,690 I was hoping you'd say that. 389 00:20:40,170 --> 00:20:41,230 We've got to talk, George. 390 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:44,510 I've got to know what's happening here. Dan, I'm on my way home. You're always 391 00:20:44,510 --> 00:20:45,510 on your way somewhere. 392 00:20:47,690 --> 00:20:51,490 Look, I'm working too hard and this project is too important for me to get 393 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:52,429 treated like this. 394 00:20:52,430 --> 00:20:55,550 I need my assistant and I've got to have time in the lab. You know what we've 395 00:20:55,550 --> 00:20:56,550 got here? 396 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,600 I'm afraid I do. 397 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:03,540 A friend of mine, McPherson, an editor of the Ottawa Medical Journal, just sent 398 00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:04,540 me these galleys. 399 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:07,440 The issue will be out in a couple of days. 400 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:14,360 Their lab tried to duplicate your arthritis research. They failed. 401 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:16,000 Nobody can do it. 402 00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:17,660 Not even you. 403 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,920 I'm more skilled than they are. 404 00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:23,500 This isn't getting litmus paper to change color. It's a difficult 405 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,720 They're not amateurs up there. I found that article very persuasive. 406 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,340 How long have you known about this? 407 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Mr. Pearson called me. 408 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,700 When he told me what he had to say, I asked him to send those galleys. 409 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,440 You might have warned me. 410 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,820 All I need is time and a lab assistant. 411 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,320 I'm right. 412 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:46,080 I stick my reputation on being right. You have. And our reputation as well. 413 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,580 I know. I've got it. 414 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,120 I'm not throwing good money after bad, Dan. 415 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,320 I'm sorry. 416 00:21:54,620 --> 00:21:55,620 Good night. 417 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,100 Good morning, Wendell 418 00:24:06,540 --> 00:24:07,680 Hey, Dan, come here. 419 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:15,580 I'll be Dan. 420 00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:21,660 Dan. 421 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:33,720 Bluegrass will continue in a moment here on A andE. 422 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,950 A andE Returns. to Lou Brand. 423 00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:43,870 Thank you, Dr. Van Draken. 424 00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:49,890 I bring you all a message from my wife, who is in bed with a cold her husband 425 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:51,410 doesn't seem to be able to cure. 426 00:24:52,150 --> 00:24:53,270 She's demanding a recount. 427 00:24:56,390 --> 00:25:02,250 The history of the Strauss Award is so distinguished that our reaction at LAU 428 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:03,530 when the news was first announced 429 00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:06,590 was how will we ever prove ourselves worthy? 430 00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:12,130 Well, maybe we've just taken the first small step. 431 00:25:13,310 --> 00:25:18,330 It is with great pride that I announce that LAU has successfully duplicated its 432 00:25:18,330 --> 00:25:20,550 experiments in arthritis treatments among small animals. 433 00:25:21,470 --> 00:25:24,590 We begin testing with human subjects by the first of the year. 434 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,700 about that sharp -looking quarterback from the prep school at Eagle Rock. Oh, 435 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,760 yeah, yeah, Hodges. 436 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,940 Yeah, we didn't sign him. 437 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,240 You're kidding. 438 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,300 You guys worked six months on him. Well, he decided he didn't care about LA or 439 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,720 football. He's going to William and Mary, pre -law. 440 00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:57,460 No fooling. 441 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,200 Thanks. 442 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:00,720 William and Mary. 443 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,280 Hey, how's that, uh... How's that story on the medical center coming along? 444 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Fine. 445 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Yeah. A lot of people have been asking me about it lately. 446 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,260 You tell them it's coming along just fine. 447 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,640 You sure nailed me, didn't you, Charlie? 448 00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:22,380 Look, why didn't you say you just didn't want to do the story on L .A .U. 449 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,200 instead of going out of your way to put the knock on us? 450 00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:28,220 You think we're going to put the knock on you? 451 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,300 Oh, look, Charlie, it's not me. I'm just a concerned alumnus. 452 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,260 Look, we know you sent one of your hostile young reporters over to the 453 00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:37,260 Foundation. 454 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,160 Asking a lot of loaded questions. 455 00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:42,800 And it's a crying shame. 456 00:26:44,020 --> 00:26:45,820 Trying to bring down a fine school. 457 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,100 Your burger's getting cold. 458 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,760 Okay, so you're embarrassed. 459 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:57,360 I felt like a five -star fool finding out what my paper is doing from a 460 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,380 manufacturer. What the hell are we planning to write about L .A .U.? Story 461 00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:06,380 MedCenter. And what ugly secrets did Rossi uncover about the Stewart 462 00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:09,580 Nothing. Nothing? That's not what I heard. 463 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,800 Stewart Foundation's Billy story. 464 00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:16,180 Billy? 465 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:19,240 Billy's a hostile young reporter? 466 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,840 I guess so. 467 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Huh. 468 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,860 But I still don't understand. 469 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:29,640 I mean, the last thing I heard, the L .A .U. story was looking like a salute to 470 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,720 men and white. What happened? 471 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Billy got something better. 472 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Oh, yeah? 473 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:35,980 Well, good for her. 474 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,420 Let me take a look at it when it's ready. 475 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Could we get a look at the rabbit's face? 476 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,160 Sure. Yeah, look over here, fella. Come on. 477 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,719 What's his name? 478 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,720 Wendell. 479 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,860 Wendell. Here we go. 480 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Come on, Wendell. 481 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:58,060 What should I expect from a rabbit, right? 482 00:28:00,060 --> 00:28:01,880 How does it feel making a breakthrough like this? 483 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Well, mostly I'm tired. 484 00:28:04,990 --> 00:28:07,030 This is just one of the projects I've been working on. 485 00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:08,710 You're not happy? 486 00:28:09,570 --> 00:28:10,570 Oh, sure. 487 00:28:12,850 --> 00:28:13,850 I'm very happy. 488 00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:17,610 Did Wendell's disposition seem to change as he got better? Is he happy to be 489 00:28:17,610 --> 00:28:22,270 cured? Well, of course we don't allow ourselves to get too attached to the 490 00:28:22,270 --> 00:28:23,270 animals. 491 00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:28,290 I'm sure any organism will respond in some way to the lack of painful stimuli. 492 00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:31,310 Actually, the amount of pleasure... 493 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:37,830 The species is capable of communicating. It's very small in comparison with the 494 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:38,830 response of a human. 495 00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:41,010 Did Wendell receive any special treat today? 496 00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:46,950 Ah, well, of course, the animal has no awareness of his significance. 497 00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:51,450 Excuse me, ma 'am. 498 00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:53,170 Excuse me, doctor. 499 00:28:53,410 --> 00:28:57,470 I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize for the pitiful questions of 500 00:28:57,470 --> 00:28:59,930 colleagues. Dr. Todson can handle it. 501 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,040 What's the general feeling around here since the announcement? 502 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Unrestrained euphoria. 503 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:06,740 Boy, it sure looks like it. What is it? Is it Tizen they hate or is everybody 504 00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:07,740 allergic to the rabbit? 505 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,880 I don't even know who you are. 506 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:12,240 I'm sorry. Joe Rossi, Tribune. 507 00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:14,020 Rita Silvera. Hi. 508 00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:18,680 So, you were saying why everyone's acting so funny about all this. No, I 509 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,880 No matter what I say, it'll look like professional jealousy. 510 00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:26,100 Oh, listen. I've been the target of some pretty understandable jealousy in my 511 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:29,550 day. And you guys are not acting jealous. It's deeper than that. You're 512 00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:30,550 angry. Am I right? 513 00:29:33,010 --> 00:29:36,390 Get a copy of the upcoming issue of the Ottawa Medical Journal. 514 00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:39,850 Thanks. 515 00:29:42,790 --> 00:29:44,650 You did that very well, Mr. Rossi. 516 00:29:46,570 --> 00:29:48,470 It just sounds like people are jealous. 517 00:29:49,010 --> 00:29:51,770 Did my mother have the mumps for Pete's sake? 518 00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:55,730 Okay. It's morbid, okay. Let's say it's jealousy. It's a great story. 519 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,120 This guy has just made a huge advance in medicine, and his buddies are tripping 520 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,680 over themselves to avoid saying nice job. I think it's pretty stinking 521 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:05,019 It's awful. 522 00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:09,080 Sure, human nature and all, but I love it as a story. Don't you love it as a 523 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,180 story? I respect it as a story. Now, go easy on the irony. 524 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:13,620 Be fair to this place, will you? 525 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:14,820 Sure, Lou. 526 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,620 Boy, give a little blood to the joint. Next thing you know, you're telling... I 527 00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:19,100 didn't say be nice. I said be fair. 528 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,700 Oh, now this is ridiculous. 529 00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:30,820 Wait a minute. 530 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,260 What are you letting them do to you this time? You don't want to know. 531 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,520 Michael, does your mother know how you're making a living? 532 00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:38,740 It's not that big a deal. 533 00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:40,420 You're young and healthy. 534 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Perfect specimen. And you're intelligent. You could contribute. But 535 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,120 wasting the most valuable years of your life. You're prime, lying on a gurney, 536 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,620 letting people poke at you. I'm happy. 537 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,840 How could you be? 538 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,200 I mean, this is your life. You're supposed to do something with it, not 539 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,079 kill time. 540 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,879 I do things. 541 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,739 What do you do? 542 00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:57,940 Well, I talk to people and I read. 543 00:30:58,460 --> 00:31:00,120 The only thing I don't do is work. 544 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,980 But I've never been on unemployment and I've never been on welfare. 545 00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:07,200 Mike, there's work to be done in this world. 546 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Don't you feel you're missing something? Not contributing? 547 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:11,900 No. 548 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Huh? 549 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,640 Okay. 550 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,200 I've been avoiding the word because you're a nice kid. 551 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,940 But I think you're just plain lazy. 552 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,740 Mike, you're just a big lump. 553 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,300 A big, happy -go -lucky lump just sitting in the middle of the road for 554 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:28,580 of us to have to go around. 555 00:31:29,780 --> 00:31:30,780 You know what I think, Lou? 556 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,800 I think I contribute. 557 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,620 Everybody else is so uptight, you know, worrying all the time about their job 558 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:41,200 and their politics and their money, fighting their way up the ladder. 559 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,040 I think they take a look at me and they say, whoa, I gotta slow down. 560 00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:49,720 You know, I think I'm kind of a calming influence. 561 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,960 Not to me, you're not. 562 00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:04,980 When I was 12, I made a dissection table out of an ice cube tray filled with 563 00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:05,980 candle wax. 564 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:08,080 My little sister would catch frogs for me. 565 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,880 I got a book and taught myself dissection. 566 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,960 In college, I wound up selling my car to get enough money to go to Chicago to a 567 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,899 medical conference. 568 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:20,800 I knew George Duncan was going to be there. 569 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:23,280 I wanted like hell for him to meet me. 570 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Why was that? 571 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:28,000 Well, he was starting the med center. 572 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,640 I'd read an article. 573 00:32:30,810 --> 00:32:32,830 He'd written about how L .A .U. was going to be the best. 574 00:32:33,290 --> 00:32:34,830 I was planning on being the best, too. 575 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:37,310 So he hired you? 576 00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:39,110 Then? Oh, no. 577 00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:40,430 I was an undergrad. 578 00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:46,390 But every paper I did, every project I worked on, every job I had, was always 579 00:32:46,390 --> 00:32:47,390 with Duncan in mind. 580 00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:51,650 When did you finally come here? 581 00:32:56,910 --> 00:32:58,010 When did you finally come here? 582 00:32:59,070 --> 00:32:59,929 Two years. 583 00:32:59,930 --> 00:33:00,930 Last. 584 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,620 I was in Montana, up to my ears in wide open spaces, 585 00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:12,140 correcting freshman exams, and he called. 586 00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:17,200 He said, son, I think it's about time you got out of that garage and call a 587 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,400 I did some real research. 588 00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:26,720 So, I packed 12 cases of books, a suitcase full of summer clothes. 589 00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:29,980 I lived south of L .A .U. 590 00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:33,679 Steve. What? 591 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Look at this. 592 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,040 This is one of the new ones. 593 00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:41,920 But he's got something wrong with that hind leg. 594 00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:44,840 And it looks like his number's been changed. 595 00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:48,139 Uh -huh. 596 00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:49,140 What do you think? 597 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,580 Well, there's a lot of things it could be. 598 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:54,900 I suppose. 599 00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:56,180 Mm -hmm. 600 00:33:57,340 --> 00:34:00,020 Dan, can you come over here? 601 00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:04,180 Are we finished? 602 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,480 Oh, sure. 603 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,500 Thanks, Dan. Congratulations. 604 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,920 You're welcome. 605 00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,699 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 606 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:42,620 Close the door, would you, Daniel? 607 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,840 Freeburg and Masterson just finished their proposal for the enzyme research. 608 00:34:58,700 --> 00:34:59,700 How's it look? 609 00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:09,410 What do you suppose the odds are they'll be funded once word gets out that LAU 610 00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:10,490 is faking lab results? 611 00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:13,250 What are their chances, Daniel? 612 00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:17,510 Now that you've lied, what's going to happen to everyone else? 613 00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:20,370 I don't know. 614 00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:23,410 You're not going to bring all of this down with you, I swear you're not. 615 00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:27,330 Silvera and Nakajima aren't going to say anything, and neither are you. 616 00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:32,150 We'll back off the results, say that we announced prematurely and that we... 617 00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:34,620 You have to reevaluate the data. 618 00:35:34,820 --> 00:35:36,140 I don't think that's going to work. 619 00:35:36,820 --> 00:35:38,820 I want you to go up to my place in the mountains. 620 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,640 Talk to no one. 621 00:35:41,620 --> 00:35:42,620 Just stay there. 622 00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:43,800 People are going to find out. 623 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Probably. 624 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,920 Because what you did was so stupid. 625 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,600 My God, it was so simple to catch. 626 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,080 You didn't catch it. 627 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:53,620 You bought the whole thing. 628 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,700 I think you better get going now. 629 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,740 You read this article? 630 00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:08,940 Of course I read the article. 631 00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:10,180 And you understood it? 632 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,160 Well, the technical stuff was a little slow -go, but... What does it say? 633 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,700 Well, I can't tell you exactly what everything means, but... Yeah, yeah. 634 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,800 you're out of your element. 635 00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:22,840 Even if you get your hands on Todson's data, you don't know how to interpret 636 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:24,080 How are you going to judge who's right? 637 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,780 Lou, there's another way to crack this. Through Dan Todson. You want to talk to 638 00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:29,860 him? Go talk to him. I've got to find him first. He's gone. 639 00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:31,540 But I think I've got a lead. 640 00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:33,980 How much time do you want? 641 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,860 Days. A few days. 642 00:36:37,130 --> 00:36:40,370 If you're gone for a few days, that's a lot of coffee I stand to lose. 643 00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:43,850 You promising me something sensational? 644 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:46,390 I am. I am promising you something sensational. 645 00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:48,430 Or a total wipeout. 646 00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:51,150 Go. 647 00:36:53,850 --> 00:36:55,490 Tell me again who this guy is. 648 00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:57,090 Damon Forrest. 649 00:36:57,370 --> 00:36:59,970 He used to be head of the L .A .U. Alumni Association. 650 00:37:00,610 --> 00:37:02,310 Now he's not an official or anything. 651 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:04,390 No, thank you. 652 00:37:04,610 --> 00:37:05,529 He, um... 653 00:37:05,530 --> 00:37:08,410 He's just a friend of the university and my best connection for football 654 00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:11,950 tickets. Don't let that influence your treatment of me. He really didn't like 655 00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:12,950 story, huh? 656 00:37:12,990 --> 00:37:15,810 Well, he wouldn't go into detail on the phone. 657 00:37:16,050 --> 00:37:19,270 But I think it's a safe assumption that my seats will be somewhere east of the 658 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:20,270 stadium next Saturday. 659 00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:25,950 It's so petty. They think he could really get you with a couple of bad 660 00:37:25,950 --> 00:37:26,950 tickets. 661 00:37:27,710 --> 00:37:28,710 Yeah. 662 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:32,470 Really? You actually care about the old orange and white? 663 00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:34,050 Well, sure I do. 664 00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:36,100 You went to L .A., you? Yeah. 665 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,140 I suppose you never went to football games. Never went to graduation. 666 00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:41,600 Oh, Billy. I had a job. Oh. 667 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:47,140 Listen, I loved having four years to read and think and worry about the 668 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:50,660 without somebody thinking it was a waste of my time. L .A .U. gave me a chance 669 00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:55,860 to do all that. It also gave me a chance to see grades change, to keep a jock on 670 00:37:55,860 --> 00:38:00,100 the tennis team, to see professors publish their students' works under 671 00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:05,380 names. Charlie, a prefab construction company gave L .A .U. a big endowment, 672 00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:08,600 suddenly the school was offering degrees in mobile home technology. 673 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,060 Charlie, there's a guy waiting in your office. 674 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:12,118 Yeah, I know. Thanks. 675 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,120 Is that him? 676 00:38:13,780 --> 00:38:14,738 That's him. 677 00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:15,740 I can take him. 678 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,100 Nobody's going to take anyone. 679 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,600 We had our say in the paper. Now let's hear him talk. 680 00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:23,060 Fine. Okay. 681 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,080 Nice to meet you. 682 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Do you realize the harm your article has done? 683 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:41,340 I'd like to hear anything you want to tell me. 684 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,660 Everybody on campus is just sick about that god -awful story. 685 00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:47,100 If you could see the betrayed look on their faces. 686 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,260 Wait a second, Damon. You know what you're doing? 687 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:53,540 You're acting like the people at L .A .U. are a bunch of hothouse dilettantes 688 00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:54,540 who need our protection. 689 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,080 Let me tell you a few things. 690 00:38:56,500 --> 00:39:01,740 L .A .U.'s operating budget for this year is $260 million, which, by the way, 691 00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:03,720 several times more than this newspaper's. 692 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,040 Your recruiters are working overtime selling the school to kids here and in a 693 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,040 dozen countries. 694 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,760 LAU is one of the largest landholders in this area, and there's hardly a 695 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,900 department where faculty members don't consult with local industry. 696 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,560 Well, what in the world's wrong with that? Most of the time, nothing. 697 00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:23,480 But don't expect a trib to treat the university with kid gloves and stop 698 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,340 swooning every time anyone catches you in a lie or a scam. 699 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,240 If LAU wants to be part of the real world, it'll better learn to take a 700 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:38,080 And, uh... Please, pass that on to our concerned friends on campus. 701 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,800 Okay. 702 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,240 Damon, prepare for more. 703 00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:52,380 Well, I kept my mouth shut. I don't know about my colleague. 704 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,860 We lost that kid at Eagle Rock. We're going to have a lousy team next year 705 00:39:57,860 --> 00:39:58,860 anyway. 706 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:16,500 Figured you'd be out walking. 707 00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:18,180 Yep. 708 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,660 Well, you got everything all sorted out for yourself, Dan? 709 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,540 Some problems can't be walked off. 710 00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:37,040 You sure that's it? Because I've still got a couple of pints of blood left, and 711 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,460 you don't know the first thing about my Uncle Roy's side of the family. 712 00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:51,390 Oh, Mike, what do they do to you now? 713 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:53,410 Break your leg to see how fast you didn't mend? 714 00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:56,230 No, no, no, I got this. I was running on the beach, hit a patch of kelp and 715 00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:57,230 wrenched my knee. 716 00:40:57,350 --> 00:40:58,350 So how you been? 717 00:40:58,650 --> 00:40:59,650 I've been fine. 718 00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:03,750 Listen, um, I've been doing an awful lot of thinking about what you told me, you 719 00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:06,970 know, about how maybe I'm not pulling my weight and living up to my potential. 720 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:08,290 Really? Good. 721 00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:11,450 Yeah. Lou, you're totally wrong. 722 00:41:11,770 --> 00:41:12,970 I'm the happiest guy I know. 723 00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:16,090 Okay, Mike, have it your way. 724 00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:20,110 Well, listen, I read Sunday about what you guys wrote about the rabbit trick. 725 00:41:20,330 --> 00:41:21,330 You read that, huh? 726 00:41:21,690 --> 00:41:23,350 You've been spending money on the trip? 727 00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:25,570 Never. I go to laundromats. 728 00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:27,470 There's always a paper at a laundromat. 729 00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:32,230 Anyhow, you know, things are really going to slow down around here at L .A 730 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:32,788 you know. 731 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:34,910 Funding for the med center is going to take a nosedive. 732 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:36,290 Yeah, that's what I heard. 733 00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:39,870 Yeah. Boy, messing around with the results. 734 00:41:41,230 --> 00:41:43,770 I'm well out of it, Lou. You know, this bunch is not for me. They got no 735 00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:44,770 integrity. 736 00:41:45,310 --> 00:41:46,310 I take science seriously. 737 00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:49,450 I guess that means you'll have to go get a job. 738 00:41:49,850 --> 00:41:50,910 No, no way. 739 00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:52,790 Not while I still have the strength to lie down. 740 00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:58,130 I heard about this hospital down in San Diego. It just came into some megabucks. 741 00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:59,790 Sounds good. 742 00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:02,030 And the beaches are less crowded, too. 743 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:06,990 Good luck. 744 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,100 I need grim conclusions, Mr. Grant. 745 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:19,140 Everyone's at lunch. 746 00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:21,540 Dan Todson? 747 00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:25,120 Oh, no. He's... He's gone. 748 00:42:26,780 --> 00:42:28,100 How do things look for the center? 749 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,780 Well, if you listen closely, you can hear the sound of checkbooks snapping 750 00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:36,060 But we'll coax him back. 751 00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:37,660 We? 752 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,920 You're staying? 753 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:40,920 Trustees gave me a vote of confidence. 754 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,340 I couldn't leave L .A .U. 755 00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:45,820 Not at a time like this. 756 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:47,860 You 757 00:42:47,860 --> 00:42:55,460 know 758 00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:57,060 when I realized I was in big trouble? 759 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,180 That day in the lab? 760 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,680 Nope. 761 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:01,720 This morning. 762 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:07,120 When I needed to talk to someone and the only person there was was a reporter. 763 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,040 You. 764 00:43:10,420 --> 00:43:11,420 What about friends? 765 00:43:14,410 --> 00:43:15,570 It was always George Duncan. 766 00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:20,350 Well, do you have any family? 767 00:43:21,370 --> 00:43:22,370 Back east. 768 00:43:25,870 --> 00:43:27,030 I'm gonna have to tell them. 769 00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:31,290 What do you think you'll do now, Dan? 770 00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:34,710 I haven't a clue. 771 00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:39,770 Well, there are other jobs. 772 00:43:42,830 --> 00:43:43,850 You don't know science, Joe. 773 00:43:44,730 --> 00:43:47,270 There's a long waiting list for the job I had. 774 00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:51,810 And who's going to hire someone when they can't be sure of his results? 775 00:43:56,670 --> 00:43:59,110 Joe, I feel like I've been falling for weeks. 776 00:44:00,170 --> 00:44:04,130 Ever since the study started to go bad, I keep thinking I'm going to finally hit 777 00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:05,130 bottom. 778 00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:08,270 But I just keep on falling. 779 00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:12,190 Didn't you know you'd get caught? 780 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,620 Somebody find out you'd faked the results? 781 00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:19,020 The experiment worked, Joe. It worked once. I always felt in my gut I was 782 00:44:22,940 --> 00:44:27,400 Now it's gonna take forever for someone else to get around to repeating the 783 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,400 experiment. 784 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,240 Because it's been discredited. 785 00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:34,780 That's what hurts so much. 786 00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,160 stronger if you move Thompson's background up higher in the story, see? 787 00:44:43,660 --> 00:44:44,860 Oh, yeah. That's good. 788 00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:46,420 Let's tribute this quote. 789 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,360 Okay, make it Duncan's head. 790 00:44:54,740 --> 00:44:56,020 This worked out very well. 791 00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:57,260 Yeah. 792 00:44:57,700 --> 00:45:00,500 You know, I was thinking this morning about all the stories that start out 793 00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:02,140 looking like nothing and turn into big ones. 794 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,080 You never know. 795 00:45:04,260 --> 00:45:05,260 Yeah, exactly. 796 00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:07,500 God, Lou, luck has a lot to do with it. 797 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,080 I mean, my instincts are the best, and even so, there are times when you just 798 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,580 don't know whether you've got a story till you work on it. 799 00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:17,700 It's one of the good things about working here. 800 00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:20,180 They'll let you take a chance now and then. 801 00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:23,640 Of course, it's just smart policy. 802 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,560 Thanks. 803 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,000 You know, Toddson said something to me when we first met about Copernicus. 804 00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:30,180 Remember old Copernicus? 805 00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:34,580 Hmm. He had this hunch about the Earth revolving around the sun when everyone 806 00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:35,580 else thought the opposite. 807 00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:41,380 Well, Dan said the way science is run today, Copernicus probably wouldn't get 808 00:45:41,380 --> 00:45:42,380 funded. 809 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,460 He's been in films and on Broadway. 810 00:45:55,740 --> 00:45:58,320 But what were the origins of the vampire? 811 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,520 Follow his harrowing history on Ancient Mysteries tonight. 812 00:46:03,020 --> 00:46:09,100 Now a beat cop has to face the toughest battle of all on Police Story, next on A 813 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:10,100 andE.